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Roy Walter Benedict

Born Born 22 Jan 1906 Willmar, Kandiyohi County, Minnesota
Married Married 1st ca 1927 Eleanor C Brecht at Location
Married Married 2nd 8Jan1948 Altha Blanche Chandler San Francisco, San Francisco County, California
Died Died 29 Aug 1988 North Bend, Coos County, Oregon

Parents:

Children: with Alhta Blanche Chandler

  1. Patricia Ann Benedict; 1949-

Eleanor C Brecht

Eleanor b ca 1904 in Minnesota.

1930 US Federal Census: Roll 1094, ED 152, Pg 4B, 20Apr1930, 8th Ward, Supervisors District 7, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota. Line 70, family No 116:

  • Benedict, Roy W, head, rent, 55/mo, radio, male, white, age 24, married at age 23, did not attend school, able to read and write, b MN, father b CT, mother b MN, able to speak english, bagger in a hardware store, wage, employed
  • Eleanor C, wife, female, white, age 26, married at age 25, did not attend school, b MN, father b Germany, mother b MN, cashier detec..Agency, wage, employed

Divorced wife Eleanor Brecht ca 1947. No children born.

Altha "Blanche" Chandler and Family

Blanche was the family historian and an avid genealogy researcher. The following is per her recorded documentation of her life:

I was born 21Mar1913 in Clarksville, Arkansas, and I believe at Grandmother Chandler's house. Grandmother and Grandfather Chandler lived in a big old farm house when I was born. My parents were Altha Moss and Ralph Chandler.

We were a happy little family and when I was 5, Dad moved to Omaha, Nebraska, to work in the powder plant. This was during World War I. I remember his coming home all black from the powder and I would run and hide under the table as I did not know him and was afraid of him.

I remember picking up blossoms from catalpa trees and putting them in an oatmeal box. I also remember birthday parties and I remember having a small pox vaccination when I was about 5 and coming home and coming down with the chicken pox. This I thought was rather dumb to go to the doctor to get chicken pox!

Mother, Dad and I all had influenza in the big epidemic of 1918. We were in Omaha at that time and far from families, so Mother, even though she too was sick, took care of Dad and me. She never got over the flu and went down hill. At one time, the doctos thought she had consumption because at that time they knew very little other than the lungs were involved.

While in Omaha, Dad was in a bad train wreck. Apparently he had to take the train over a drawbridge. The drawbridge opened or did not close properly and the train was thrown into the river. Many were killed. Dad was not hurt, but his rain slicker was badly torn.

Grandmother Moss was a hard-working, strong-willed, fun loving Christian woman who had a great capacity for love. Each of her sons-in-law thought he was her favorite. I don't know about the children. I know it never occurred to me to think about anyone being a favorite, so I guess we must also have thought each of us was a favorite.

The little Methodist Church at Lamar Arkansas (earlier called Cabin Creek) was a labor of love for Grandmother Moss, and today the little church has a plaque to her. I remember the box socials with lots of homemade ice cream eaten so fast I'd get a headache. After church on Sunday we were encouraged to bring home friends for dinner. There was always lots of food, most of it having been cooked on Saturday. I was told not to go barefooted, but one day I joined Grandmother in her garden and my bare foot found an old rusty nail. She cleaned it and although she didn't really say much, I knew "I told you so" was in order. I had no tetnus shot, but I suffered no ill effects, just a very sore foot for some time.

My mother taught me the first grade, so I did not start to public school until second grade when I was 7. I do not really know why she taught me the first grade. When I was very young I walked to school with my aunts. One day I stopped to check some grapes and found my hand very close to a snake. Need I say, I left hurriedly and caught up with my aunts in record time?

We drove to the diamond caves one time and the car broke down and as I remember it we waited near a bridge by White River while Dad and someone went to the nearest town for a part. It seemed we were there a long time and that it was a long trip. However, I do not remember staying overnight.

Sally (an aunt) told me that I was with her when someone came and said for us to get to my mother's bedside right away, which we did and Mother died holding my hand. She died 21May1921 and it was hard hearing people taling about 'Poor Blanche is almost a full orphan' because Dad had a heart attack and almost died too. (Dad's first heart attack was probably when he was a young man and had a tooth pulled without benefit of anesthetic. The one he had at the time of Mother's death was probably his second one).

The funeral is a blank, but the graveside service was traumatic and when the first shovel of dirt was thrown into the grave, I screamed 'You can't do that to my mother' and had to be restrained.

Dad and I then went to live with his parents on Rogers Street in Clarksville. They had moved from their large home on the farm in Oakland. Marie and Seth were still at home and we were happy, except Grandmother was a very strict Baptist who did not believe in doing much of anything on Sunday except going to church and eating and perhaps a drive in the open touring car. When the car would freeze Grandad would take a teakettle of water out and pour it on the radiator.

Grandmother Chandler taught me to make dill pickles when I lived with her and I had to take piano lessons and elocution lessons, which were quite the thing in those days for young ladies.

When I was 9, Dad married Allilee Crowder. Before Dad married my mother he went with Beulah Crowder and after Mother's death he went to see Beulah, but she either wasn't home or didn't want to see him, but Allilee who was much younger and very pretty, set her cap for Dad. They were married in 1922 and shortly thereafter we left for California in a Chevrolet roadster.

It was very exciting to see the Pacific Ocean for the first time. We lived in Pasadena, California for several years and then went back to Arkansas. The schools in California were behind those in Arkansas and I was put back a year. Later Dad built a house next door to my grandparents for Allilee, and I remember not the house itself, but do remember that Dad realized a dream and had chickens. He had fancy incubators, etc.

We lived in a duplex in Pasadena. A very lovely couple lived next door. They didn't have children and they doted on me. They loved to take me out to eat, but I didn't appreciate that as, had it been the days of hamburgers, I'm sure that would have been what I would have wanted. They'd take me to Chinese restaurants and others and I could hardly eat. I didn't appreciate then what they were doing for me.

I went to grade school and junior high in Pasadena. When I would go to Arkansas, I would be put back a year, but when I came back to California I would be put up a year. Later when I tutored a very smart girl in algebra in high school (smart except for math) I was reminded of this. Californians thought people from Arkansas were dumb and at that time they called them Arkies. This came about because a lot of people from that area had to leave thier farms, etc. because of the terrible dust storms and they came out with chickens, mattresses, etc on top of their cars. Anyway, when she asked me if Arkansas was green like it was on the map, I told her it was green, but that was not why it was green on the map anymore than it was yellow or whatever color it was on the map for California.

These were not happy times as Allilee was finding it hard to cope with a stepdaughter only 9 years younger than herself, although I was her slave at first and would have done anything she wanted. She did not know how to cope with a child and thought that beatings were the answer, as that was the way her father raised them. This was not exactly the way to handle me.

Dad and Allilee went back to California and this time left me with my grandparents and later sent for me. I went to California by myself on the train. In those days there as an organization called Children's Aid or something like that and they met me in Kansas City where I made my first change. They looked after me, as did the conductor, until I got to L.A. and Dad and Allilee met me.

We lived in a garden apartment on Portia Street off of Sunset Blvd. where Ralph, my brother, was born in 1928 when I was 15. Later we lived on Gracia Street in Los Angeles (near the present Dodger Stadium). I went to Belmont High School and graduated there in 1930. When we knew Dad couldn't pay for me to go to college, my course at school was changed from Literary Course (College Prep) to Business (typing and all that).

Banks were closed and depositors did not always get their full amount back. Dad would have lost our home on Gracia Street near Glendale, but he wrote president Roosevelt and somehow it was worked out so it was saved. Needless to say we thought President Roosevelt was really something. Probably deferred payments were arranged. Dad was a carpenter then, having lost his cabinet shop on Sunset Blvd because of a poor choice of partners. When we were in Arkansas he had been a builder and contractor. However, after his heart attack it was harder for him to go on roofs, etc. Later, when Kaiser built its first steel mill in Fontana, he was a supervisor and inspector.

When I graduated it was the heart of the Depression, but I still had hopes of finding a job. 1930 was deep into the depression and it was almost impossible to get a job. I had studied machine bookkeeping and knew Burroughts, which the banks then used, plus several other machines and thought I was pretty good, but there were experienced men and women out of work, so no chance for me. I went to an employment agency and applied for a job as a machine bookkeeper, typist, whatever. The lady there laughted at me and asked why I thought I should have a job when men were out of work and they had experience. This place was also where they had an application that asked among other things if I was left or right handed. The next question was 'any other physical defects?' I was so amused, at first, then annoyed, I brought it to the attention of the lady.

I heard of an opening in an office from an acquaintance whom I had known in school. I applied and got it. Three men shared the office with one secretary. But as they were crooks and only kept girls up to 3 months because by then we were finding out what they were doing. After that I went to Clifton's Cafeteria, handing out filled water glasses, carrying trays, setting up table, serving, anything where I was needed. Today it would probably be called a bus girl.

While working for an addressing company as a typist, I met Jack Bradshaw and went to work for him putting on his dog shows. This was very interesting work. A lot of movie people not only showed dogs, but came to see them. Among them were Bette Davis, Delores Del Rio and her little white bull terriers, the Gary Coopers, Jimmy Cagney, Jeannette MacDonald?, Joe E. Brown, Marion Davies, and Dick Powell. I made $25 a week, which was very good.

Social Security started about that time and althought I was not on it from the very beginning, it was not long after. Jack Bradshaw's office was space in a print shop office, where I was introduced to 'print lice'. Type was set by linotype then and it came out in little bars. These were in trays. Greenhorns were shown the 'lice'. The type had a cleaning liquid on them and as we peered to see the lice, the bars were pushed together and we were sprayed with the liquid which caused black spots on the clothing.

By this time I was living with Carl and Nell Ludwig in Alhambra CA (the aunt and uncle of a good friend of mine) as I had left home after an argument with Allilee in 1931. Allilee forbade me to leave. The police were called to stop me from leaving, but since I was 18, the police sided with me and escourted me away. But before I left home and while I was still at school, I remember dying a dress as there was no money for a new one and this way it at least was a change.

Grauman's Chinese Theatre (Now Mann's) was THE theater. Not only was it beautiful, but it had vaudeville as well as top notch films. I remember one of the first films I saw there was The Ten Commandments. I don't remember the price, but probably 50 cents. We couldn't go very often.

The Depression really hit California about 1930. I stayed with Nell and Carl until Bill Derry and I were married in 1934. I think I paid something like $5 a week for room and board. Bill and I ran away to Santa Ana to get married and kept it a secret for a while, as we really couldn't afford to get married. Then we moved to a small garden apartment in Pasadena on MacDuff? Street. Bill worked with his dad selling Manhattan shirts, which were new then, and other men's haberdashery items, so we moved to Berkeley so Bill could work up there. Times were tough and stores weren't buying. Arrow was the big competition. In 1938 things caught up with Bill; unknown to me he hadn't been paying bills and had done some gambling trying to get out of trouble. He was also trying to find some other work. Killed himself - hose from car - suicide - no insurance.

I went to work at MGM Distributing in San Francisco as a file clerk and relief switch board operator. When I left there during the War when salaries were frozen I was secretary to the Office Manager. Before that I was secretary for the Head of the Contract Department. I can't remember the salary but it was pretty good for some time. Nor can I remember the amount of rent paid (had a roommate). When I was working at MGM I met MGM stars including Dennis Morgan, Margaret O'Brien, and Robert Taylor.

In 1838 I was sent to L.A. with Hanna Cushing to work with the legal department on a 'monopoly' lawsuit. I had my first gambling experience there. Gambling boats were operating off L.A. Hannah's fiance was a bank officer and fortunately was sent to L.A. at the same time, so he took us on the boat. We were getting $25 a week expenses, which was very good and more than ample, but before the evening was over I had spent my weekly expense and that cured me to trying to win at gambling.

Four young college men from New York, sons of MGM execs, worked with us and we all had lots of fun together when we were not working.

Then I went to work for Lippert Theaters as a secretary to the General Manager, Charlie Maestri. I met and married Sherman Bacon in 1942 in Reno and divorced him twice, in 1946 and 1948.

I met Roy Benedict and married him in January 1948 and Patti was born July 1949. In 1951 we moved to Klamath Falls and to Portland in 1955.

Christened 16May1948 Grace Episcopal Cathedral, San Francisco, CA

Died 18Dec1992 Coos Bay, Coos County, OR

Death Certificate No. 92-24881. Died Bay Area Hospital, Coos Bay, OR 97459

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98: Name: Benedict, Altha Blanche County: Coos Death Date: 18 Dec 1992 Certificate: 92-24881 Age: 79 Birth Date: 21 Mar 1913 Spouse: Roy

Social Security Death Index: Name: Blanche Benedict SSN: 562-03-5893 Last Residence: 97459 North Bend, Coos, Oregon, United States of America Born: 21 Mar 1913 Died: Dec 1992 State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

Roy’s Years

First day of school was in 1912, District 13, Meeker County MN. 8 grades in one room and one teacher. Transfered to Darwin, District 42 to walk with his aunt Lottie, who was his teacher.

ca 1917, Roy and Harold Peterson, both about 11 years old, along with others, pooled their money and bought a sack of Bull Durham tobacco and stashed it on top of the coal shed at the railroad station.

During the flu epidemic in 1918-1919, Dr. Delude would go by train from his office in Dassel to Darwin. Roy would take him by cutter to see his patients in outlying areas. The doctor would sleep while riding.

About 1920 Roy's dad told him to get out. He went to his aunt Mamie's (Lenhard), who lived on the Vogelbale Place on Lake Stella. Roy had a cow which he took with him. Later, Mamie, Bert and Roy went to a little show in Darwin, saw his father Walter. Walter asked Roy to come home to water the horses as he was going to be in Litchfield (MN). Roy did and went back to Mamie's. His father never came back again. After his father left, Roy, at 14 years old, took over the road grading job. He also cut weeds at the side of the road with a sickle and put new gravel in holes where needed.

His mother sold the team of horses and Roy went to Minneapolis to Business School for 6 months. His mothers cousin, Edwin Kruger also went. They boarded and roomed with Mrs. Steinke on Pennsylvania Avenue. Roy returned home in 1921, then returned to Minneapolis and got his first job with Palmolive Soap Company, going house to house giving samples and taking orders.

Before 1921 ended, Roy was sent to Redwing, MN. On a trip back to Minneapolis he saw Stan Reinke, who was the salesman with Janney-Semple-Hill who called on the hardware store in Darwin where Roy had worked during his school years. Stan took Roy to see the boss who put Roy to work in the steel warehouse. Eventually he moved to the office.

1922: Joined DeMolay?

1927: became a Mason in Minneapolis, MN (He was proud of the fact that he became a Master Mason on the day Charles Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic and landed in Paris. Member of the Masonic Lodge (first Ark Lodge in Minneapolis, then Golden Gate Lodge in San Francisco, CA, and finally the lodge in Klamath Falls, OR., the Scottish Rite Bodies in Portland, OR, the Al Kador Shrine Club and the Tualatin Valley Shrine Club.

During the depression, Roy and his first wife, Eleanor, married ca 1927, both worked, and had a new apartment near Lake of Isles which they paid about $35.00 a month. Eleanor's father had a farm leased out on shares. When Roy and Eleanor had time off without pay, they helped pick corn and haul her father's share in to the house in town where it was put in the coal bin to burn in his furnace. The banks were closed, but he got most of his money out eventually. They bought a house near Lake Nekomis about 1929, but they couldn't handle the payments. They rented a room to a couple from Litchfield and shared the grocery bill. Finally they couldn't make payments and had to let it go.

Roy went to work for Gamble Stores in Redwood Falls about 1934. He was transferred to Eau Claire, Wisconsin, then to Lewiston, Montana, where he was made assistant manager. They wanted to transfer him to Dickinson, North Dakota, but he didn't want to go east. Instead he went to Billings, Montana to work for Marshall Wells in 1935.

In 1936 he left and came to Portland, Oregon, where he worked in the hardware department of Meier and Frank. He then went to Baker and Hamilton in San Francisco in 1937 where he remained until he went to Lorenz Company in Klamath Falls, Oregon in 1951 as Sales Manager. He was later made Vice President.

In 1955 Lorenz was sold to Adsco Northwest and Roy was sent to Portland, OR, but the company soon liquidated. On Apr 12, 1956 Roy was told he was through as of 1May1956. Roy was approached by Clemson Brothers and on the 23rd he left for New York and the Clemson plant, where he sold lawn mowers and Victor and Star saws on salary and commission.

1951-1955 belonged to Klamath Falls Kiwanis Club

195?-1988 member of the Beaverton, OR Elks Lodge

1960-1985 Shrine Hospital, Portland, volunteer guide

Census Records

1910 US Federal Census: T624_730, Part 2, 22Apr1910, ED 187, Pg 10A, 3rd Precinct, Supervisors District 4, Stillwater, Washington County, Minnesota, line 36, address reads "Road". Dwelling No 191, Family No 198:

  • Lenhard, John, head, male, white, age 54, married 25y, b Wisconsin, father and mother b Germany, Farmer, own account, able to read and write, owns farm with mortgage
  • Lenhard, Louise, wife, female, white, age 47, married 25y, mother of 4, 3 living, b Minnesota, father and mother b Germany, not employed, able to read and write
  • Benedict, Hazel, dau, female, white, age 21, married 5 years, mother of 1, 1 living, b Minnesota, father b Wisconsin. mother b Minnesota, not employed
  • Benedict, Roy, grandson, male, white, age 5, single, b Minnesota, father b CT, mother b Minnesota
  • Lenhard, Lotti, dau, female, white, age 16, single, b MN, father b Wisconsin, mother b MN
  • Lenhard, Mamie, dau, female, white, age 14, single, b MN, father b Wisconsin, mother b MN

1920 US Federal Census: T625_845, 3Jan1920, ED 117, Pg 1A, Supervisors District 162, Darwin, Meeker County, Minnesota, line 22, farm, Dwelling No 7, Family No 7:

* Benedict, Ed W., head, rent, male, white, age 48, married, able to read and write, b CT, father b CT, mother b Pennsylvania, able to speak english, Wood Cutter on a farm, own account

  • Benedict, Hazel H., wife, female, white, age 31, married, able to read and write, b MN, father b Wisconsin, motehr b MN, able to speak english, not employed
  • Benedict, Roy W., son, male, white, age 13, single, attended school, able to read and write, b MN, father b CT, mother b MN, able to speak english

1930 US Federal Census: Roll 1094, ED 152, Pg 4B, 20Apr1930, 8th Ward, Supervisors District 7, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota. Line 70, family No 116:

  • Benedict, Roy W, head, rent, 55/mo, radio, male, white, age 24, married at age 23, did not attend school, able to read and write, b MN, father b CT, mother b MN, able to speak english, bagger in a hardware store, wage, employed
  • Eleanor C, wife, female, white, age 26, married at age 25, did not attend school, b MN, father b Germany, mother b MN, cashier detec..Agency, wage, employed

Roy's Final Years

1n 1951 he moved to Klamath Falls, Oregon, and spent his remaining years there.

Death Certificate No. 88-15996. Died St. Catherine's Nursing Home, North Bend, Coos County, OR.

Buried Ocean View Memorial Gardens, Coos Bay, OR

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98: Name: Benedict, Roy Walter, County: Coos, Death Date: 29 Aug 1988, Certificate: 88-15996, Age: 82, Birth Date: 22 Jan 1906, Spouse: Blanch

Social Security Death Index: Name: Roy W. Benedict SSN: 540-09-2694, Last Residence: 97459 North Bend, Coos, Oregon, United States of America, Born: 22 Jan 1906, Died: 29 Aug 1988, State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951)

Sources

Per Benedicts to America Vol II, Pg 312

146. Eliakim Starr Benedict 7 (George 6, Eliakim 5, Thaddeus 4, Thomas 3, James 2, Thomas 1) b 29Feb 1813, Danbury, CT, m 1st Sophia Carey, m 2nd Ella Gilmore. He d 10May1894, Madison, CT. Chd by 1st m: I) Francis b 1850. II) Sarah. III) George Israel b 23May1853, m Laura Ingersol Hall, b 17Apr1835 in Warren, CT, d 10Feb1901. He d 9Nov1920 New Britain, CT. Chd: 1) Grace Ingersol b 9Jul1879 Warren, m 20May1902 William Louis Trappee. Chd: A) Elizabeth Louise Trappee b 22Oct1945. b) Florence Teresa Trappee b 4Feb1912 Mt, Carmel, CT, m 24Jun1937 Ralph H Buckingham. Chd: A) William Ralph Buckingham b 31Oct1939 Cheshire, CT. B) David Richard Buckingham b 8Jan1944 Cheshire, CT. C) Janet Hall Buckingham b 14Sep1949 Cheshire, CT. 2) Clarence Lewis b 10May1882 Warren, CT. m 1Jun1905 Anna Mabel Scheny, b 23Sep1877 New Britain, d 6Mar1957, he d 28Apr1957 New Britain, CT. Chd: a) Mabel Anna b 20Aug1911, m Richard Gordon of New Britain, CT. Res: 201 Harrison St, New Britain, CT. 3) Elizabeth Florence b 7Nov1886 Warren, CT. m 28Nov1936 Robbin Gilbert Spencer of Mt. Carmel. Res: 28 Feun Rd., Cheshire.

Chd by 2nd m: IV) Daughter, m Mr. Frank Hoffman. Res: RD Cornwall Bridge, Warren, CT V) Walter Francis b 7May1876, m Hazel Henrietta Lenhard on 30Aug1904. She b 29Aug1888 at Darwin, Minn. Chd: Roy Walter b 22Jan1906 Wilimar, Mandiyohi County, Minn., m 8Jan1948 Alta Blanche Chandler. Res: 12345 S West Parkway, Portland, OR. Chd: a) Patricia Ann b 11Jul1949.

Footnotes

Christened 20May1948 Grace Episcopal Cathedral, San Francisco, CA

Roy was 6 ft in height, slight build, wore glasses

Roy was an avid golfer

-- SandeeToo - 18 Nov 2008
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